“First, small devices with an annual output of less than 1 million tons must be forcibly phased out.”

Feng Xiaochen raised a finger and said to Wang Zhenbin.

Wang Zhenbin hesitated and said: "On this issue, the Planning Commission does have a plan, and it is planned to eliminate these backward production capacity in five to ten years."However, our current supply of refined oil is insufficient, and if these small devices are eliminated, will the import pressure of refined oil be even greater?”

Feng Xiaochen said: "This is called death and then life."How can they be motivated to build large refineries without shutting down the small refineries in the hands of the provinces?The national supply of refined oil is tight, and the provinces have to take these small refineries as their own land, and if the state does not take strong measures to force them to eliminate them, then in the future, they will have to take various stopgap measures in order to keep these small refineries alive, and ultimately bear a huge burden.”

Xu Zhenbo interjected: "I think President Feng said it is reasonable, we are now to protect these inefficient small refineries, dare not accept the conditions for reducing tariffs on refined oil products."You do not know that if we do not agree to this condition, we will lose many other benefits.”

Wang Zhenbin pointed his finger at Feng Xiaochen and said, "I can't answer you right now, you still have to say your second point."

Feng Xiaochen then raised his second finger and said, “My second point is related to the first point.”After shutting down these small refineries, we can upgrade large and medium-sized refineries of a certain scale, increasing the production capacity of each enterprise to an annual output of more than 10 million tons.In addition, we can build two to three new refineries, which must have an annual output of more than 20 million tons.”

"That's why I'm asking you to come."Wang Zhenbin said, "The Development Planning Commission does intend to build two to three refineries with an annual output of more than 20 million tons, but the equipment investment of this scale is more than 3 billion US dollars per refinery."I would like to ask you about the equipment companies, you have the ability to achieve the localization of these equipment.If we don't need to import equipment, in other words, if we don't need to use foreign exchange, then we're going to be much less stressed."

Feng Xiaochen said: "The annual output of 20 million tons of refining equipment, we really did not do.But we have been engaged in large fertilizer equipment, large ethylene equipment, technology accumulation has been very full, I believe we can take down this specification of equipment."

“There are no jokes in the military?”Wang Zhenbin said seriously.

Feng Xiaochen smiled, “Why, do you want me to give you a military writ?”

Wang Zhenbin also laughed, laughing a little embarrassed.Laughing, he said seriously: "As a matter of reason, you have taken a picture of your chest, and I am a big brother who has nothing to worry about."But our Grand Director needs a clear answer, which involves whether the NDRC can promise the Ministry of Foreign Trade to open the refined oil market, can not joke."

Xu Zhenbo listened to Wang Zhenbin talk about his head and said: "When it comes to the promise of accession, it really needs to be careful."The liberalization of the refined oil market is a process, and we can promise to reduce the tariff by 30% for three years, then by 30%, and then for three years, and finally in about ten years, so that our tariff level reaches the level required by the Americans.Ten years is a long time to say, but I know that the construction of the refinery needs a cycle, and the time to trial and error is very limited.If we finally find ourselves unable to solve the technical problems, but to introduce large refining facilities from abroad, both foreign exchange issues and time problems, then we will be passive.”

“We don’t need ten years, if the NDRC can give policy and the funds can guarantee that we can build three refineries with an annual output of 20 million tons of refined oil products within five years, with a technical level of not less than the Western average and production costs are not higher than their average.”Feng Xiaochen said with certainty.

“Are you sure of that?”Wang Zhenbin's eyes glittered with light.

Feng Xiaochen said: "Old Wang, Director Xu, you are engaged in economic management, we may not know much about the industrial field."In fact, refining in the entire petrochemical industry is the lowest technical threshold, in contrast, large-scale ethylene plants, large-scale xylene devices are the most technically difficult.The annual output of 20 million tons of refining equipment and our past 5 million tons of equipment compared to the expansion of the scale, such as the diameter of the distillation tower to reach more than 10 meters, hydrogenation reactor weight of more than 1000 tons, as well as large heat exchangers, large heating furnaces, large decompression vacuum systems, large machine pumps, etc., in short: large.A few years ago, we smashed pots and sold iron in Haidong to build an extreme manufacturing base, that is, for the manufacture of these large-scale equipment to go, and now the limit manufacturing base has been basically built, engaging in these large-scale equipment has not been a problem."

Feng Xiaochen said so, but in fact, the expansion of equipment is not simply to make things bigger, in the process of large-scale equipment, will produce a lot of new technical problems, these problems in small equipment can not be considered.

For example, the annual output of 20 million tons of normal decompression distillation device needs a 300 MW normal pressure furnace, manufacturing this large-scale normal pressure furnace is not difficult, but it involves a series of new problems: the medium flow of large furnaces is very large, how to reduce the deflect and balance operation, involving the distribution of flow; large furnace furnace furnace furnace space is larger, how to ensure that the parts are evenly heated, involving the overall structural design of the heating furnace; large-caliber thick fireplace pipe and heat-resistant steel pipe frame manufacturing and installation are also new topics.

However, after more than ten years of digestion and absorption of foreign technology, the equipment company system of large equipment enterprises and research institutes have trained a large number of excellent technical personnel, but also accumulated a lot of experience in large-scale equipment research and development, the above technical problems, Feng Xiaochen has a full grasp can quickly solve.

Advanced industrial technology is not mysterious, and many technologies have their research methods.Those who are not in the field may feel that they can't start, but for those who have already entered, the research idea is very clear, as long as they invest money, equipment, and talents in this direction, they can always be done.The national equipment manufacturing field can now be described as talent, only opportunities and funds are missing.

Thinking of the funds, Feng Xiaochen put away the relaxed expression just now and said to Wang Zhenbin: "Old Wang, there is one thing I need to declare in advance, we can take 20 million tons of refining equipment, but in terms of funds, the Planning Commission must ensure it."You just said that a set of 20 million tons of devices, just the equipment is worth 3 billion U.S. dollars, that is, 25 billion yuan, if you can't take so much money, I can't give you the equipment."

“Is it so expensive?”Xu Zhenbo tongue.

Wang Zhenbin smiled bitterly: "This is only equipment investment, civil construction and other supporting, how to get tens of billions."However, Director Xu, you think about it, now a ton of refined oil is more than 2,000 yuan, with an annual output of 20 million tons of refined oil, and the annual output value is 50 billion, and the profit tax is almost more than 10 billion.If you build a refinery and you can make it back in three or four years, is such an investment not worth it?”

“That is so.”Xu Zhenbo understood, but also understand why the development committee to spend a lot of effort to protect the refined oil market, this is really a fat oil industry ah.

Feng Xiaochen said: "Three or four years to recover the investment, a little optimistic."We now have a large profit on refined oil products because of tariff protection.If Director Xu cancels tariff protection on their side, domestic refined oil prices will have to fall sharply with the international market, and the profit level will not be so high.However, the internal rate of return of more than 10% should still be guaranteed, and such a high profit is also worth fighting for.”

"Little Feng is right."Wang Zhenbin nodded and said, "However, the construction period of a refinery is four or five years, and for our Development and Planning Commission, the pressure of funds is also very large."Just now Xiao Feng asked me to guarantee the funds, to be honest, I really do not have this confidence.

Feng Xiaochen put his hand on the stall and smiled and said, “Half a day, you have no money?”No money, what else do you say?Director Xu, let's go, there is a meat shop on the other side of the moon altar that tastes good, or we should try it now."

“You little Von!”Wang Zhenbin was lazy and laughed at Feng Zhichen, and he pointed to Feng Xiaochen and exaggerated: "I did not say no, there is pressure on funds, this is inevitable."We now have fixed-term investment in the name of the state-owned economy, which is 150 billion yuan a year, which looks like a lot, but there is not much allocated to various sectors.You say that the construction of three new 20 million tons of oil refineries, equipment plus civil construction is more than 100 billion, of course, we have to coordinate, where can say investment to invest."

Feng Xiaochen said, “Old Wang, you forgot the first point I just said.”If the state is determined to force the phase-out of small refiners, localities will be forced to invest in large refineries.Now the central government has no money, the local government has money in its hands, and it is impossible to mobilize private capital, let private capital participate in shares, and make up for 100 billion yuan in the district.

"The district of 1000 billion..." Wang Zhenbin groaned with the gangster, chatting with this little brother, he often had a feeling of toothache.

“Let the local government pay, which is also considered.As for private capital, it is too difficult to make up the scale of tens of billions.I know that you are close to the private capitalists in Xiaofeng and Haidong, do you have a way of getting them to make tens of billions to build a refinery?”Wang Zhenbin choked.

“Is that what you said?”Feng Xiaochen stared at Wang Zhenbin and said.

“What did I say?”Wang Zhenbin stood still.

"You said you asked me to contact the private capitalists in Haidong, and everyone gathered money to build a large oil refinery."

"This..." Wang Zhenbin was mute, he just knew it was good to lift the bar, how to take each other seriously.Let the private capitalists raise funds to build the refinery, is Feng Xiaochen still have this idea?