“Professor Gao, can you elaborate on how the Chinese government’s first set of policies violated China’s WTO accession commitments?”Constance asked in accordance with the agreed script.

Gao Lei said: "First of all, when China joined the world trade agreement, it promised to give national treatment to foreign companies and not to adopt discriminatory policies in procurement."However, the first set of policies of the Chinese government requires all units to give priority to the use of domestic equipment when purchasing equipment, which is a violation of the principle of non-discrimination.Secondly, in order to help domestic enterprises obtain equipment orders, the Chinese government forced property insurance companies to launch the first set of insurance products, only to the manufacturing enterprises to charge a symbolic 2% premium, the other premiums are subsidized by the NDRC through special funds, which violates the WTO rules in the counter-subsidy clause.

“Professor Gao, regarding the first point you have said, we have carefully studied the policy of the Chinese government and found that it is only a proposal for priority procurement, and does not force all units to purchase Chinese domestic products, which means that the Chinese government has not interfered with the procurement behavior of various units.”Bernstein asked.

Gao Lei said: "The policy of the Chinese government cannot be taken literally.When the NDRC released this document, it also took into account the challenge of circumventing the WTO, so it played some writing skills.I have spoken to NDRC officials on this issue, and they have made it clear that this policy is mandatory and that if local governments dare to violate the requirements of this document, they will impose severe penalties.”

“Can you be responsible for what you just said?”Bernstein asked.

Gao Lei nodded firmly: “I can face off with the officials of the National Development and Reform Commission.”You can also interview officials everywhere if you wish to see if they are any different from me.”

"Great, this is a very important message."Bernstein quickly made the record on the book.He also knows that a scholar’s words are not enough to justify the WTO’s ruling on violations, but with Gao Lei’s words, at least they can stir the water and put the Chinese government under pressure.

"Second point, you just said that the China Development and Reform Commission provided government subsidies for the first set of insurance, is there any clear evidence in this regard?"Constance asked.

“There are!”Gao Lei said that he stood up, went to the front of the bookshelf, turned over, found a few documents with the words "confidential" written on his head, handed it to the hands of two reporters, and said: "You see, this is the internal documents of the China Development and Reform Commission and the property insurance company, which was given to me to comment when they designed the first set of products."In this regard, it is clearly stated that the subsidy standards of the Chinese government for the first set of policies are clearly stated.”

“Can we take a photo?”Connor asked.

"It's okay, I don't keep everything here secret."He said in the atmosphere.

At the end of the interview, Gao Lei sent the two reporters out of his office.Walking in the corridor, the colleagues who came in front of me cast their envious eyes to Gao Lei: real cow, and accepted foreign journalists to interview, when we can also mix into such a state!

A few days later, in the office of Wang Zhenbin, director of the National Development and Reform Commission, several guests came.Walking in front, Xu Zhenbo, the director of the Ministry of Commerce, followed by two foreign guests and a translator sent by the Ministry of Commerce.

“Mr. Wang, this is Mr. Bovard, the special commissioner of the European Commission, and Ms. Emeline, Mr. Bovard’s assistant, who came for the first set of policies recently issued by the NDRC.”Xu Zhenbo introduced Wang Zhenbin, and at the same time, there was a bitter smile on his face.

Before Xu Zhenbo came to the development of the Reform Commission, he had already spoken to Wang Zhenbin by phone, so Wang Zhenbin knew the intentions of Bovard and Emeline, and also made some preparations.He greeted the guests and, after a few more words, smiled and asked, “Mr. Bovard, do you have any questions about the first set of policies we have?”

“Yes.”Bovad, who was serious, instructed Emmeline to pull out a newspaper from the bag and hand it to Wang Zhenbin, saying: "Mr. Wang, the European Commission has received complaints from more than a dozen European companies, accusing the Chinese government of violating the principles of the WTO agreement in the procurement of industrial equipment in the Chinese market and adopting discriminatory policies against European companies."On this issue, there is also a detailed description in this report, in particular, it should be pointed out that this information was disclosed by a well-known scholar in your country.

European companies are demanding that we bring this issue to the WTO to resolve it.The European Commission, from the overall situation of EU-China trade, hopes to communicate with the Chinese side on this matter and resolve differences.If the Chinese side's solution to this matter does not satisfy European companies, the European Commission will have to take this matter to the WTO."

Wang Zhenbin took the newspaper, looked at it, and found that he did not understand it at all, because this was a German newspaper, and Wang Zhenbin only knew English.The translator with Xu Zhenbo rushed forward and gave Wang Zhenbin a brief explanation of the contents of the newspaper.This is the report of Constance and Bernstein interview Gao Lei, which about the Chinese government's discriminatory policy against foreign companies, which was marked out by Bovard with a fluorescent pen in advance, and the translation also highlights this part of the content.

Wang Zhenbin listened to the introduction, and looked at the tall fat face on the photo of the report, a MMP came up from Dantian, almost blurted out.Nima, which side are you on!Do you know how to speak?Western countries stare at China all day to find fault, we are tired to deal with, you as China's own scholars, do not help us to speak, but to foreigners to hand guns, the country where to treat you?

How to greet the generations of women in Gao Lei's heart is also useless at this moment, and the current priority is to answer Bovard's doubts.Wang Zhenbin has just asked the leader for instructions, and with Feng Xiaochen on the phone, but also prepared for this issue.He returned the paper to Emeline, smiled at her, thanked her, and cleared his throat, and said to Beauvais:

“Mr. Bovard, I don’t quite understand what the EU means.This newspaper report, but the personal opinion of a scholar, is not true.The Chinese Government has always kept its promises and there are no reported allegations, and Mr. Bowad is also asked to clarify to those European companies.”

"Is it true that the Chinese Development and Reform Commission is forcing local governments to purchase domestic equipment?"

“It’s a total rumor.We only from the point of view of encouraging the development of the national industry, we suggest that they give priority to domestic equipment under the same conditions, which is also allowed by the WTO rules.If Mr. Bovard does not believe it, I can show you the documents of the NDRC.”

“But Mr. Gao Lei said that you did say so in the open documents, but in addition to the secret requirements, which do not appear in the documents.”

"How does Mr. Boward know if it is a secret request?"

"That's what Mr. Gove said."

"He's just a scholar, that's probably his imagination."

"As far as I know, he is a well-known scholar in China, is his words not true?"

“I am inconvenient to say this, but in this case his words are only an unfounded conjecture.”

“So what do you explain the question of your government’s high premium subsidies for the first set of insurance to domestic enterprises?”

"I don't understand what you mean."Wang Zhenbin shook his head and said.The matter of premium subsidies involves a large number of units and personnel, and he is not sure that all units can be kept as a word of mouth.In this case, the best way is to listen to how much information the other party has, and then respond to it, so as not to fall into passivity.

Bovard made another gesture to Emmeline, and Emeline took out a stack of data again and handed it to Wang Zhenbin.Wang Zhenbin took the data to see that his face was somewhat stiff.It turned out that this was a copy of the documents that Gao Lei provided to Conz.Wang Zhenbin is very familiar with these documents and knows that it involves the content of premium subsidies.Since the other party has already obtained these documents, it is not appropriate to deny them.

At this time, the secretary pushed the door in, and behind him, followed by Feng Xiaochen, general manager of the National Equipment Corporation, and Qi Ruicang, a researcher at the National Development Research Center.When Wang Zhenbin saw the two, his eyes lit up, and he got up to say hello to them to sit down, and then introduced Bovard and Emmeline:

"Mr. Beauvais, Miss Emmeline, I will introduce you.This is Mr. Feng Xiaochen, general manager of China National Equipment Industry Company, Mr. Feng Xiaochen, the first set of policies that you are concerned about is raised by the equipment company, and there are some problems, he knows the situation better than me.As for this gentleman, Mr. Qi Ruicang, a researcher at the National Development Research Center, is an internationally renowned economist who has studied the transformation of the old industrial base.He knows the rules of international trade, so I've called him here."

“Qi Rui’s warehouse?Are you the one who proposed the “Qi-Ding Industrial Recovery Curve”?

Without waiting for Beauvais to say anything, Emmeline shouted first.There were little stars in her eyes, and there was a little bit of a fascination with her sister who saw the idol.

“The curve was proposed by me and my colleague, Mr. Ting Shikwan, who contributed far more to the theory than I did.”He said humbly.

“What industry recovery curve?”Beauvais was a little embarrassed and asked Emmeline.

Emmeline said: “This is one of the greatest discoveries in industrial economics in recent years.Mr. Qi and Mr. Ding, according to the experience of the industrial rejuvenation of the old industrial base in northern China, proposed a new path for industrial rejuvenation, named Qi-Ding Curve.European countries are also now facing the problem of the revival of the old industrial base, and the theoretical community is very much respect for the Qi-Ding curve.”

“So it is...” Bovard began to be a little impressed, and he owed it to Qirezang slightly to show respect.