Hearing this metaphor of the old man, Shen Rongju laughed and said, “In fact, this involves the third level, that is, the level of national security.”If we can be satisfied with eating shit, then of course we can live in peace with the Western countries.But if we also want to eat meat, we should not avoid eating meat with foreigners, and at this time, it will be a matter of national security.”

“Imperialism will not die, and this sentence is not at any time.”The old man commented.

Shen Rongru said, “But some people, even quite a few, think this sentence is outdated.”

“It is true that a considerable number of people think that this sentence is outdated.”The old man repeated Shen Rongru's words, and then continued: "They said that as long as we give up our position, others will accept us."They do not know that the conflict between the state is ostensibly a conflict of positions, and in essence a clash between eating meat and eating shit.They think that the meat in the world belongs to them, and you only deserve to eat shit.If you want to eat meat, it will be against their interests.The two world wars were not caused by differences in social systems, but because the emerging colonial Powers had to seize the interests of the old colonial Powers, and that led to war.”

Shen Rongru said: "On this point, the debate among our students is also very large, one view that the future world will be the same, while the other group believes that the rise of China will inevitably lead to the containment of international forces, and I and some older scholars are inclined to the latter view."

The old man said, "I support your point of view."

Shen Rongru: “Thank you.That’s the third level of the problem I’m talking about.At this level, a country as big as we can never completely attach its industries to the Western economic system, otherwise, once it is blocked by foreign countries, our economy will completely collapse.In addition, as an independent and sovereign major country, we must have an independent and powerful national defense industry in order to resist aggression and defend peace.And an independent and powerful defence industry must be based on a complete and vast industrial system, which at any point of mutilation will become our Achilles heel in wartime.”

“Well said!”The old man said, "We used to take the road of independence and self-reliance, and now put forward reform and opening up, and actively introduce foreign technology and funds, which is correct, but the four words of independence and independence will never be outdated."Our opening-up has an important premise, that is, with me as the mainstay, we must not put my lifeblood into the hands of foreigners.”

Shen Rongru smiled slightly, and he knew that this statement of the old man actually announced the end of the theory of international great cooperation.This theory can certainly be used to guide microeconomics, but at the level of national policy, it has no value.

"Gao Lei is a talent, he still has some ideas, this is worthy of recognition."

The old man began to identify the initiators of the international collaboration.This is a private conversation, and there is no need to avoid it, so the old man can directly point out the name of Gao Lei.For the old man and Shen Rongru, Gao Lei belongs to the next generation and can be reviewed.

However, after all, he is still too young, and he is not stable enough on the big issues related to the national economy and people's livelihood.In addition, he recently reported that a graduate student at the University of Technology cheated, which also reflects his lack of heart, which is a big gap compared with those of you old scholars.”The old man said.

"I understand this."Shen Rongru said, "Because he reported the reinstallation of the official, is my current graduate student, named Feng Xiaochen."According to some comrades, Gao Lei reported him, and Feng Xiaochen led the blues coffee salon academic research work also has a certain relationship.

“Academic arguments are not horrendous, but because of academic controversies, administrative means are used to combat them, which is disproportionate to the identity of a scholar.”

"It turns out that his report is false, and Comrade Du Xiaodi's academic ability has been recognized by his international counterparts."Professor Cai and Feng Xiaochen are not at fault in her admission.”

The old man nodded, then turned around and said, “Oh, talking about your student Feng Xiaochen, but it is indeed a person.”It is not easy to be able to push Gao Lei to the end of the world.”

“He just took the lead, and the blues coffee salon was established with the funding of the re-installation office, which naturally does not support the theory of international cooperation.”Shen Rong ru gave an explanation.Such a thing, Feng Xiaochen must be to report to him, so he is very clear about the consequences.

The old man said: "Feng Xiaochen's ability is not limited to the establishment of a blues coffee salon, he is also very good at reinstallation, you may not know, Comrade Dong Lao and Comrade Fanze, his evaluation is very high."

"Feng Xiaochen's thinking is very active and eclectic.His family has a deep background, is proficient in mechanical expertise, and can speak five foreign languages.The most difficult thing is that he has a sense of the big picture and is decent, and doing things always puts the national interest first, and I think that should be the main reason why Dong Lao and Minister Meng admire him.”Shen Rong Confucian.

The old man smiled, “Comrade Rong Confucian, I’m afraid there are some things you don’t know very well, do you?”This young man is a hidden multi-millionaire.According to incomplete information available to the authorities, he owns at least five companies, and although these shares are held in the name of his parents and his grandmother in Germany, the actual owner is himself.Last year, he went to Hong Kong Island and persuaded Zhang Jiu to invest 150 million Hong Kong dollars in his company.When Zhang Ji referred to him, he was also full of praise, saying that he was a business genius.”

"I have heard of these things, but not as well as you can understand them."Shen Rong 儒讷 answered.He really only heard about these things, and he felt that this kind of thing was more sensitive, so he deliberately did not ask Feng Xiaochen.Now listen to the old man, I know that there is really no secret under the world, Feng Xiaochen's little trick is not a thing in front of the state machine.

The old man said: "The relevant departments have investigated, although Feng Xiaochen participates in those enterprises, but did not use his own work to facilitate the self-interest of these enterprises, on the contrary, he also used these enterprises to do a lot of good things for the country."The operation of these companies is basically compliance and there are no illegal acts.On this issue, I and several comrades have also exchanged views, and we believe that reform is a new thing, and how the cadres in the reform era should be managed or worth exploring, and Feng Xiaochen's dual identity should be tolerated as long as it does not harm the interests of the country."

“He’s a student now, and it’s not a mistake to hold shares in a business.In the future, if he is engaged in academic research and does not do specific economic management, then this kind of behavior is also understandable, and many research institutions now encourage researchers to participate in economic activities.”Shen Rongru defended the disciples.

“Do you want this student to inherit your mantle?”The old man asked, and when he had finished, he replied to himself, "I am afraid you will be disappointed in this, he cannot inherit your mantle."He is a managerial person and is not fit for academic research.I have talked to Dong Lao and Comrade Fan Ze, this young man can cultivate well, the future can become a big instrument."

"I know, the dragon is not in the pool."Shen Rongru said, "However, I still hope that when the leader uses him, it should be gradual and not promote."

"That's what they mean."The old man said, and said, he sighed: "How young is it, like the sun at eight or nine o'clock."The world is ours and theirs, but at the end of the day it is theirs.Comrade Rong Confucian, let us make these young people a good ladder."

The content of this conversation, Shen Rongru did not disclose to Feng Xiaochen.He knew that Feng Xiaochen's future was bright, and he only needed to help Feng Zhichen.

After this talk, the publicity about international cooperation gradually faded out in the media, and various seminars related to it were either cancelled or tigers, and the participants turned around to discuss other theoretical issues.Gao Lei's position has not changed, and he still enjoys corresponding treatment in front of his fellow, but everyone can feel that he has no past scenery.He himself knew this, so he buried his head all the time to read a book, ready to change the field to come back.

The Blues Coffee Salon ended its historical mission, but the organization and name were retained to become the most dynamic graduate academic group in Beijing, and its membership was no longer limited to the Institute of Social Sciences, but included the major universities and research institutes in Beijing.Some members graduate from graduate school, and when they arrive at the workplace, they will return to activities from time to time, and then make their tentacles into many substantive departments.

At the decision-making level, the idea that China needs to build a complete industrial system has been strengthened, and some of the large-scale equipment research and development plans that have been put on hold have been reintroduced and supported accordingly.The reinstallation has become a fragrant dumpling again, but for Luo Xiangfei, it is more pressure to work.He has passed the age of 60 this year, according to the regulations should retire to the second line waiting to retire, but the Commission can not find a more suitable person to replace him, so he can only let him continue for two years.

On this day, as soon as Luo Xiangfei went to work, he received an official letter, saying that the first unit of the 1700 mm hot-rolled mill in Batin Province, the African heavy machinery factory built by the Qinzhou Heavy Machinery Factory, has been built and is about to start trial production.The Ministry of Industry of Avare solemnly invited the re-installation office to send personnel to Africa to participate in the commissioning ceremony.Among them, they also put forward a special invited guest, this person is Feng Xiaochen.